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14 July 2010 @ 02:04 pm
Just because we're female...  
 ...Doesn't mean that we can't love baseball for the game itself (of course, some of the guys ARE hot;)). I'm sick of the guys who act like because we ARE female, we can't know and love baseball. Anyways, what are y'all's favorite team(s)? Detroit Tigers for me, though I love the Boston Red Sox and baseball in general. :)
 
 
 
Ashleyavecvu on July 14th, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC)
Red Sox and White Sox for me.

Maybe I just don't associate with misogynistic jerks, but I've never had a guy imply that I am less of a baseball fan just because I'm a girl.
Meganwatersedge16 on July 14th, 2010 06:48 pm (UTC)
Sweet, nice to meet another Red Sox fan. I've had a couple that have said it, I'm not friends with them, because most of them I've come across, are jerks in other aspects, as well.
Ashleyavecvu on July 14th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
That's exactly it. If a guy is going to act like you're an inferior baseball fan just because you happen to be female, then yeah, the misogyny doesn't stop there.

I actually notice it a lot in the Red Sox fandom, particularly in reference to so-called "pink hats." I mean, don't even get me started on that term. Some people try disguising their sexism by implying that "pink hat" is a unisex term applying to any bandwagon/superficial fan who doesn't know anything about the game, but let's be serious.

It's especially prevalent in reference to Jacoby Ellsbury fans, and of course that is perpetuated by Boston sports writers. One of my friends sometimes gives me flack for liking Jacoby, and he's pointed out that a lot of it is because so many of Jacoby's fans are just so incredibly annoying, though he acknowledges that I actually know stuff about baseball and therefore do not fall into that category. (Which is gracious of him, considering the fact that he taught me everything I know about the sport.)

So yeah, the misogynism surrounding baseball pisses me off. But anybody who implies that I am less of a baseball fan because I happen to be a girl is nobody I want to associate with.
Anjali.anjak_j on July 14th, 2010 07:58 pm (UTC)
(Which is gracious of him, considering the fact that he taught me everything I know about the sport.)

That's just misogyny under another guise...the idea that men think women need a man's validation in the first place is just sexist in its own right.
Ashleyavecvu on July 14th, 2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
I agree with your statement but it's wrong in regard to him. Not because you have the wrong idea at all, just that I was in a terrible mood earlier and that came out wrong.

I mean, if he ever condescended to validate my opinion, I think I'd die of shock. He really has taught me everything I know about baseball, though.
Anjali.anjak_j on July 16th, 2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
My statement was merely in reply to the idea of any guy being like you described in your original comment. I can't - and generally don't - speak on people I don't know.

We all have our moments where things come out wrong...some of us more than others. ;)
Danielletwinsfan33 on July 14th, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC)
I deal with this almost daily and it's annoying. I work for the Rochester Red Wings and while I love baseball, I am also a girl and I like dressing like one (which means heels, skirts, and cute office-appropriate outfits). People automatically assume that I'm a cleat-chaser because of the way I look. But oh well, I know I'm not, and the only people I care about are my bosses and they know I'm not either!
Blanche Devereauxwesaucereyes on July 15th, 2010 05:12 am (UTC)
What do you do for the Red Wings if I can ask? I just get really excited when I find other people working in the minors cause they understand the crazy hours.
Danielletwinsfan33 on July 15th, 2010 01:47 pm (UTC)
I'm a media relations/website intern...basically I help out with the PR department and do a lot of stuff with the website (writing game stories, updating the photo galleries, taking pictures), but a bunch of other odd jobs too. And lol, crazy hours indeed! What team do you work for?
Blanche Devereauxwesaucereyes on July 16th, 2010 03:32 am (UTC)
That's awesome. I've yet to meet a female media relations intern, then again the radio guys I've worked with have done their best to keep it a boys club in the press box.

Right now I'm working with the Trenton Thunder. As much as I miss home, I'm super pumped because this is the first time I've worked with a team that has a legit shot of going deep into the playoffs. I'm gameday so I won't get a ring if they win it all (even though I do work FO hours all day, every week). But hey, at least I'll get the bragging rights of saying I made all the team's graphics and videos.
Danielletwinsfan33 on July 16th, 2010 04:07 am (UTC)
It's definitely a boys club! But our president is a female, which is really great. The Wings have no shot of making the playoffs, so I don't have to worry about any of that, but it's still so much fun to work in baseball. You get to see the different sides that fans don't have access to, which I love. Do you have any graphics up on their website? I'd love to take a look!
Blanche Devereauxwesaucereyes on July 17th, 2010 04:46 am (UTC)
Our website is in horrible shambles to the point where my department manager puts nothing up there made by us. Most of the graphics are for the video boards and for promotional stuff around Trenton. I did get to design our back to school notebook, so I'm pretty pumped about that. Two thousand kids are going to have my design, can't really beat that. We do have a youtube with some of our videos if you want to check those out. I edited that latest upload and Bobby Baseball are the pride and joy of my department.
Danielletwinsfan33 on July 17th, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah I'll definitely go take a look at those vids.
Anjali.anjak_j on July 14th, 2010 08:10 pm (UTC)
That seems to be a prevalent attitude amongst men regardless of the sport. It also happens to be a total double standard - we know you don't watch the ladies volleyball for the sport lads; you watch it for the women in skimpy clothes with their titties bouncing up and down.

Without apology, I'm a fan of the Evil Empire. =P
ensign_beedrill on July 14th, 2010 10:57 pm (UTC)
And we like Hooters for their hot wings, too.
Anjali.anjak_j on July 16th, 2010 11:40 pm (UTC)
Quite.
ensign_beedrill on July 14th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Hah, can I guess you recently came up against this?

I've never experienced this with regard to baseball. Actually, I must be surrounded by some pretty good people, because the last time I felt I was treated differently because of my sex was in high school (I was on a robot building team with a bunch of boys). And high school boys are all jerks, so that's nothing to be upset about.
bleached beagle.: [MLB - BOS] papi the storytellerblinding_voip on July 15th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
Red Sox and Marlins are my main teams, though I also follow the Cardinals, Royals, Rangers, and somewhat the Pirates. Red Sox were first, though; I grew up a Sox fan and have added the other teams over time with the help of friends and DirecTV Extra Innings. /random

Anyway. Yeah, it sucks to have that happen, but all you can do is prove him wrong. Unfortunately, there ARE a lot of fangirls, especially in the Red Sox "fandom". There are so many chicks who go to games only to stare at Ellsbury's or Tek's (I know they're on the DL now, but you know) ass and not pay a bit of attention to the game, to the point where we knowledgeable fans need to almost "prove" ourselves to others. It's ridiculous, yes, but it comes with the territory of a popular team. I remember the days when the Red Sox weren't sniffing the playoffs, Fenway wasn't sold out every night, and everyone wearing a Red Sox shirt was actually a Red Sox fan. Those were days.

That was a tangent. Sorry. Anyway, I don't think I've talked to you yet (although you may have been in the AIM chat last night? I got kicked out though; AIM hates me), so welcome!
Meganwatersedge16 on July 15th, 2010 02:43 am (UTC)
Yes, I was in the AIM chat. :) Ah, yes, I know the feeling of hate given off by AOL/AIM all too well. LOL I'm also on Tumblr, too. My name is "eldworlordarabianhorsepride".

I do have a love for the Red Sox, and one of my favorite ex-Tigers went to the Marlins (Robertson).
bleached beagle.: [MLB - FLA] bake and cantublinding_voip on July 17th, 2010 01:12 pm (UTC)
OH, PLEASE TAKE ROBERTSON BACK. Dude is so inconsistent and the Marlins have better starters in AAA right now. I have no idea why he's still in the rotation (besides the fact that they're the Marlins and they hate my happiness, that is).
Meganwatersedge16 on July 17th, 2010 06:21 pm (UTC)
I WISH I COULD...I MEAN WE COULD. I signed up for 4INFO texts on him...Yeah...He has not changed much, has he?
Kristen: .:mussina:. moosebanoodles on July 15th, 2010 02:43 am (UTC)
I totally hear you on this. I was out shopping with my mom one day and was wearing one of my Yankee player tees. An employee of the store that we were in was a fellow Yankee fan and was like "oh, of course you'd be wearing a Jeter shirt." I looked him right in the face and said "ACTUALLY, Mussina is my favorite player, but thanks," and walked out.

Just because we have a set of tits doesn't mean that we understand or love it any less. And in my opinion, the STUPID pink merchandise doesn't help our cause.
Meganwatersedge16 on July 15th, 2010 02:44 am (UTC)
Ah, that would have p*ssed me off so much. Lol No, the pink stuff doesn't help, thought it IS for a good cause.
Kristen: .:yanks:. stripebanoodles on July 15th, 2010 03:28 am (UTC)
Oh, agreed. It's totally for a good cause. But I know people who wear it just because it's pink and they think it's "cute." Uhh, no. You don't wear your team gear to make a fashion statement. You wear it to show love for your boys.

But I guess at the end of the day, it isn't the color of the gear that gives us a bad reputation. It's the fangirls who don't even know what RBI stands for.
Meganwatersedge16 on July 15th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
Oh, come on, anybody knows that "RBI" stands for "Red Bugs Intelligence". Hahaha, I randomly thought that up. Yeah, I know. I hate when girls do that.
Anjali.anjak_j on July 16th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
LOLZ! I really want some jackass to say "oh, of course you'd be wearing a Jeter shirt" to me.

*snickers*
♥: [nyy] logoiliveforsports on July 15th, 2010 04:26 am (UTC)
<- my team.
I've never really had a problem with men when it comes to sports. I've actually had some great convos about sports with some of the guys I work with. Even on websites, I've never really gotten crap for liking sports because I may find certain players hot. Actually, a lot of it tends to be from other females.
Blanche Devereauxwesaucereyes on July 15th, 2010 05:20 am (UTC)
I've never had an issue with my reasoning for loving baseball being questioned by the majority of the guys I know. They get that I admire the majority of the players that I like because they are doing what I wish I could do for a living and are doing it well (enough). In fact, if anything I usually make fun of my boys for their man crushes on players. Then again, I think they know better than to poke at me if I happen to mention how hot and bothered long balls, high socks and Varitek's thighs get me, because I've proved myself (the fact I had to, though, sucks). I know stats, names, history and can hold my own in a conversation. The fact I've worked in baseball for two seasons and sports radio for three and had a baseball related show for one of those years also seems to help.

Come to think of it, the few times I've had issues as female baseball fan is with players themselves. I love my boys. I love hanging out with my boys. I count the hours 'til off-days so I can go drinking with them. BUT every so often there are a few that think I'm in this because I'm a player chaser and not because the guys on the team I do hang out with remind me so much of my boys back home. After all, the only reason a girl would want to work in baseball is to bang a player. It sucks but the ones who do know me love it cause those situations usually end with a swift kick in the shin and another round of beers to laugh about what just happened.

To answer your other question: I grew up in South Florida so the Marlins have always been my bbs. I became a Sox fan during Pedro's 99 season and it became an official love affair when I moved 30 minutes from Ft. Myers in '03. I also love the B-Mets since I know so many of the boys there and that was the team that gave me my first taste of the MiLB lifestyle. The team I work for now is in the same league, so as soon as I no longer get a check from them, my rooting for the Thunder is done. lol
Danielletwinsfan33 on July 16th, 2010 04:09 am (UTC)
I count the hours 'til off-days so I can go drinking with them. BUT every so often there are a few that think I'm in this because I'm a player chaser and not because the guys on the team I do hang out with remind me so much of my boys back home.

Omg I hate this! I love hanging out with my guys, and a majority of them are just really laid-back and I consider them to be my drinking buddies, but there are those few that are always like "come back to my place!" Uh, no. Don't flatter yourselves, puh-leeze!
Blanche Devereauxwesaucereyes on July 17th, 2010 04:58 am (UTC)
I think for me right now is the feel of the team and area we're in. Back in Bingo it was never an issue. Everyone outside of the owners and GM's where in the 20's, so it was just like being back in school and we were all friends and they were all too busy trying to get with my roommates. I was the little sister and only once did one of the guys cross that line while we were walking back home (my place was next door to one of the player houses). But here, I guess since they are "Yankees" or what have you, they feel like girls would jump at the chance of heading home with them. And just like you said, don't flatter yourself.
Caitlin: d-harencaitlinjf30 on July 16th, 2010 06:57 am (UTC)
My male friends actually love talking sports with me... they seem to love it that they can mention something and I will know exactly what they're talking about! I haven't experienced much negativity towards me for being a big baseball/sports fan. I'd imagine it would be much different if you worked in the business though, it's awful a few of you have to deal with that!

I'm a Diamondbacks fan, to answer the other part of the question. I like the Twins too.

Edited at 2010-07-16 06:57 am (UTC)
princess. ninja.laranlas_keryn on August 1st, 2010 05:22 am (UTC)
I have yet to run into a guy like that. Usually, though, that's how I meet guys, I (politely) jump in to a conversation if they're talking about sports. And yeah, I get some crap at first but after they realize I actually do know what I'm talking about (most of the time ^_^) they really get into the conversation with me.

My favorite teams are the Milwaukee Brewers, first and foremost, and the White Sox second, because I have to love a team from my former home state!